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francisco is lee fong, contributing writer for the nation magazine who has been following the money trail. hi, lee. nice to see you. >> good morning. >> splin plain to me. i think we have the information of him as an independent actor. he is really embedded in the web. talk to me about what this is? >> i looked at grover norquist's foundation. over 66% of its more than two-thirds of husband budget came from just two billionaire-backed nonprofits. if you peel back the layers, the people giving money and propping up norquist are folks like steve schwartzman and investors that have a lot to gain from not cutting taxes. they pay a shockingly low rate. they don't want to pay a penny more. when he says he is going to retaliate against some of the folks that are deviating from the pledge, he means his donor network will go after these folks with attack ads and money for primary challenges. that's where his real power base comes from. >> earlier this week, my colleague, chris hayes tweeted that, let's be clear. it is not grover norquist who is the reason that republicans are against these tax inc
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